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Truth seekers conversation Part Deux

Two souls GuppyDas and GhantaRam,  seeking eternal truth. A short conversation Part Deux.

GhantaRam : ET should come up with this kind of theme.

GuppyDas : Interesting for writers actually. Not bloggers but serious writers like stories or novels etc.

GhantaRam : hmm or like irregular bloggers like me 😛

GuppyDas : For you coffedesk is best. 😉

GhantaRam : thats not good I feel. BOLD is good but I need some kind of push

GuppyDas : How many pushes you want? Life can take only certain amounts of pushes. You have a wife a kid a job a life … and me. What more push you need. Ya will break dude. Take it easy. Boredom is not healthy.
Nor is over busy.

GhantaRam : well.. I am not able to connect the dots

GuppyDas : First of all be clear what are the dots. Stay on them. Stop running around chasing things that you think are dots. Next all will simple. Once you know what the dots are, connecting them is not a problem. So first finalise and confirm what constitutes as dots in your life.

GhantaRam : That’s question, what the dots are?

GuppyDas : Thats for you to find out. Unlike me you can’t have a dotless life.

GhantaRam : May be I am missing to see the dots and imagining what I see is a dot

GuppyDas : That can take the discussion in a different direction. Are you ‘missing’ it or are you choosing ‘not to see’ ?

GhantaRam :  choosing ‘not to see’ is pretending

GuppyDas : Ok got the name the theme is called ‘Simplism’ … rhymes with Bloggism 😉 … chalo ji 36 gun mil gaye shaadi pakki.

GhantaRam : and missing is already pretended as ‘not seen’ hahahaha

GuppyDas : It is not pretending we are talking about. It is chosing not to see. Pretending is done by fools. Acting, believing, assuming and being sure about something that is not. Where as the intelligent make choices.

GhantaRam : Choices are always there, but fools pretend by not making choices in life

GuppyDas : Nope. You are getting it little differently. Fools don’t know they have choices. Hence they pretend. Since they don’t know there are choices, they are qualified as fools.

GhantaRam : So the difference is knowing but what is this Knowing but not acting?



GuppyDas : Did you ever burn yourself drinking or touching a hot cup of tea (or something)?

GhantaRam : by mistake, few times

GuppyDas : If you did, you know what it is to get burned … now next time you have hot cup of something, you also have knowledge on what to do. Here you have choices. Either burn yourself again or be patient and take your time to tackle it. If you ignore the knowledge or even knowing that it is hot cup, you don’t exercise the act of choosing, and then you are not pretending, you simply being foolish. Knowledge alone does not make you intelligent. It is the choices you make, based upon knowledge that differs one from being intelligent or fool.

GuppyDas : However in the same example if you repeat the event more often, you are being careless/reckless/impatient and of course foolish depending on applicable situation. Tiffin time. I will be back around 1.30. Talk to you later.

Occupy Wall Street

Is it for real? Is it happening? Will it make the difference? Will it all change? I guess USA can use some help from Anna Hazare of India, in fighting corruption. I think Anna will be happy to guide and lead the ‘Occupy Wall Street’ movement. He is good at it. He is good at mobilising masses.

Honestly, I have my reservation. Unless the US of A, and particularly it’s people, take some time to reflect upon their own thinking, I doubt it will make any difference.

I feel for those who are suffering. I truly feel for them. People are suffering, every where. People in Asia, in Africa, In South America and also the working class people in so called advanced countries of North America and Europe.

There is so much misery all around. Yet, one nation, occupies the air waves, consume the time and attention of the rest of the world for what?

People in US, have lost their homes, lost their jobs, lost their money. So? They are not the only ones who are facing this reality. Millions of people in rest of the world don’t have food to eat. Forget out losing anything. It is a miracle that they are alive, in the first place.

When I hear the news, cries and watch the heart wrenching video posted on YouTube, about suffering of the people in US, honestly, I laugh. The only feeling I get out of it is that of a spoiled brat winging about not getting his way. Remember the French queen Marie Antoinette, the one who said ‘Let them Eat Cake’. I get that feeling when I see the Americans complaining of hardship. They are complaining that they are not getting their cake. However they are not starving like millions of Africans or Latin Americans or poor Indians.

They are unable to live their lives of wasteful over consumption and that hurts them. Their way of life, ‘American Way of Life’, the one of being most inconsiderate and obstinate, insensitive, heart less, Capitalism is hurting them now. So does that warrant for all this melodrama?

There are so many things so wrong with that country. It has given so much importance to ‘Rights’ and very conveniently forgotten the words ‘Obligation’. If there is one nation in the world, do be stereo typed as a ‘over demanding’ and ‘obnoxious’ then it is USA, closely competing with Israel.

Now don’t get me wrong. I am not a far left wing Communist radical or some sort of Socialist activist. Neither I am a radical Jihadi, who finds flaws with US, in everything that they do. I am a simple man of simple views. I say, what I feel.

Recently, I had the opportunity to view a films and documentaries. Most of them, interestingly, were trying to present the dark, sad reality of matters as they are happening in USA. Some startling facts that came out of that, make me wonder, is an average American so dumb and naive that he/she can’t see this? I mean I can see it from thousands of miles away, based on free observation. How come people living inside of US miss it?

Highlights of strange things that makes me wonder, if US of A is indeed a great nation as they seem to believe:

  • Average spent on criminals/correction facility US$ 33,000 /year. (3 meals a day, free medical, constant super vision)
  • Elderly Care was cut back to US $ 8,000 / year and that to with fewer people can qualify now. (Extra for meals and medical no supervision)
  • Average cost to give quality education to children under 14 US $ 7000 / year and no one seems to afford it. (Government seems to be happy to pay US $ 33,000 / year for a long period of time for these kids when they grow up to be uneducated/unemployed and now turned violent criminals)
  • Teachers, Doctors, Lawyers are well protected. Resulting in a gross apathy towards providing genuine service. In simple words, these people can get away with any slackness.
The list is extensive and very sad. However, I hope you get the gist of it. The point is, US of A has, in my view, reached a saturation point. They have overdone everything. On every front, on every count. They have such a clever mass media mechanism to brain wash and fool the world. However, not any more. The truth will surface, soon enough and this ‘great’ nation will have to pay for its mistakes. It is law of Karma. What goes around comes around.
One country that has used Nuclear Weapon, One country that has highest record of attacking other countries, one country that has highest per capita waste/over consumption …. USA. Country of the most fat people, in the world.
I can only pray and hope that there is a resolution to this. Soon. Peace to all.




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A day to celebrate?

I had promised a friend of mine to write an article to share his pain which he felt on first of April, not all alone but with most of the World. I am not able to describe it in here. Words and literature start betraying me when ever I am trying to write something. However when I saw a latest comment on this site, I collected some courage and few words to put it down.

When I am met my friend, Mr “A”, on first April’s evening, he was down, looking far into horizon had some tears in his eyes. I called him, right from his front, but he was so deep in his thought that his ears refuse to listen and eyes to see. I had to shake him to bring him back on this planet. My friend was very sad. After persuading a lot, he opened his mind, heart and mouth.

He said “You know what’s date and day today.”
“1st of April”, I replied.
“Aaaah, 1st of April, all Fool’s day.” My friend became more gloomy, “April sweet is in, Feast of fools begins…..”
I stopped him and asked, “What happened dear, did someone make fool of you. Come on leave it.. today is the day for……….”
My dear friend screamed, “Who can make me foooooooooooooooool…”. I thought, “Yes, you are already!”
“But, I am sad because every donkey, money, dog and even these fools have a day to celebrate, but we assholes don’t have any day dedicated to us.”, he cried and said a quote in German – “Arschlöcher der Welt, vereinigt euch. Sie haben nichts zu verlieren, aber eure Ärsche!”

I was speechless. He was right in his sense, there was no day for people like him.

I tried to console him by saying, “Okkk… but you can celebrate it on 1st May, 4th July, 14-15 August” He said all these days are already occupied with something.
“Interesting” I thought to myself. However not many realise that these days are celebrated by Assholes. How so ever they are not meant to be. Then again, look at any day as such that is celebrated. Don’t you get the feeling that they too get celebrated by Assholes and the person(s) who are meant to celebrate? When that be the case, I wonder why Mr A would want a special day? Them Assholes celebrate 365 days a year.

Where is the true spirit of celebration gone? Can someone help me find it? Should it not be honouring/respecting the occasion, the cause the event? Why it all has become a play of Assholes? Tragic isn’t it? Think about it.

Truth seekers conversation

Thinking more

Thinking more

I know everyone is Geek here, and nobody needs any extra knowledge but sharing just for sake.

GUPPYDAS: From my experience, I am saying this.
I used to be like you. Ardent reader, full of enthusiasm. Etc etc … I completely appreciate that
It is needed.
However, one thing I learnt, this energy amongst all the young people goes waste.
100% waste


GUPPYDAS: My suggestion to you, I had said this earlier, read and read more. However, without concerning with what others have to say or react, just put something in action. Be it a blog or a daily thing you do.
Transform this energy in action
Else all will remain intellectualized in the heads. Lost amidst those grey cells … to be recycled in the end

GHANTARAM: yeah, but some how I loose that enthusiasm in end,
I need something to put the idea along with me

GUPPYDAS: You see … expecting a result is what breaks the enthu..

GHANTARAM: when I sit to write, I find words are vanishing

GUPPYDAS: Do it for Fun of it.
Does not matter my friend, does not matter.
Write it, throw it away


GUPPYDAS: No need to worry about who is going to read it and all that.
I used to fall trap to that.
Trying to write with an objective … enthu dies in seconds
Mind wavers out … start browsing … go to look at babes in bikini etc.


GUPPYDAS: Really, thats how the mind rebels. Your sub conscious is far too more powerful then you estimate

GHANTARAM: can’t mind get bore by watching babes in bikini

GUPPYDAS: One of the reason why I stopped writing on itimes. I was getting applause and criticism. I was getting readers and .. everytime I wanted to write something, it was driven this idea of pleasing the crouds … kills the original spirit.
Babes in bikinis are not for mind idiot

GHANTARAM: yeah but bloody minds comes everywhere
isn’t it?

GUPPYDAS: That’s the problem. It’s not really mind. Its your sub conscious
Putting forward the leash of society to tie the ‘animal’ in you.
All the fears, conditioning ethics etc .. your sub conscious throws at you. It has access to every conceivable information of the past.

GHANTARAM: So basically everything is the dream we are living for

GUPPYDAS: It has the connection to that super memory which we are suffering. Its playing the program of the matrix

GHANTARAM: A dream, the sub conscious is weaving…
Yes Program of the Matrix
that what was in my thought, but did not want to use that here

GUPPYDAS: A real dream is felt by heart, what sub conscious creates is a diversion

GHANTARAM: so sub conscious is behind everything
every stupidity is from sub conscious

GUPPYDAS: to say it correctly … is responsible for most of it.

GHANTARAM: So how to “Free one’s Mind”

GUPPYDAS: There are experiments conducted … the thing that you think has come as a matter of choice, actually originated in sub conscious just before that …
Now if I knew THAT … I won’t be talking to you. However Osho and many others will agree to one thing … to free your mind, Meditate.

GHANTARAM: So basically you are saying that everything has a consequence which was originated from some cell in a corner of conscious mind

GUPPYDAS: sub conscious mind.


GUPPYDAS: Conscious mind knows nothing

GHANTARAM: So Conscious mind is just like a hard disk or storage device
all data is only being stored there

GUPPYDAS: more like RAM
Data gets thrown in and thrown out.

GHANTARAM: and all operation is being done by Sub Conscious mind

GUPPYDAS: the actual storage is non personal, outside every individual. It’s the Matrix that stores the data.
Sub conscious has access/connection with Matrix and gets program from the ‘Memory’ and executes it, throws the result to RAM (conscious) and we take it as a experience.
Conscious mind has more affinity with heart … in the moment.
Once again, heart is symbolic.
IMHO heart is the channel through which your soul speaks.

GHANTARAM: ok, so soul has any idea of this matrix?

Soul is free from Matrix

GHANTARAM: so u mean to say this body is part of the matrix

GUPPYDAS: Once again, to say it correctly … body is what the Matrix wants you to believe in

GHANTARAM: this is an outsider system
the body

GUPPYDAS: Nope they co – exist
Like the Sides of the force.
Jedis and Siths
There is nothing different …

GHANTARAM: yin and yang

Ahm Astu … I am
You see when more you can feel this … I Am … Love Is … you will feel the freedom.


GUPPYDAS: We need to drop the adjectives, the definitions and labels we add to everything.

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